Umberto Eco wonders how the New Realism differs from the Old Realism, of which it shares the correspondence view of truth and knowledge; so he suggests in its place a “negative” realism. Paolo Parrini challenges both Ferraris and Eco to produce arguments showing that the unamendable object of our knowledge is a metaphysically independent reality, rather than simply experience itself; and since he believes that this cannot be shown, he proposes instead an “empirical” realism. I argue that Ferraris’ realism is far from unsophisticated, and Eco himself must either grant some form of correspondence, or fall back into post-modern relativism. Further, I suggest that a merely “empirical” realism does not fully satisfy our demand for knowledge, and...