This paper describes two novel optical diagnostics that were recently introduced to the field of Si-based thin films, in particular for probing defect states present in the bulk and at the surface of a-Si:H films. It is expected that these diagnostics, when applied in situ or real time during film growth, can provide new insights into the a-Si:H film properties as well as into the fundamental surface processes during growth. The first method is cavity ringdown spectroscopy (CRDS). From ex situ measurements on a-Si:H thin films, it is shown that this method is very powerful for measuring absolute defect-related absorptions at subgap energies without the need for a calibration procedure, even for films as thin as 4 nm. It is also shown that t...