Traditionally, civil rights lawyers have focused on establishing anti-discrimination rights in courts. But today, the Movement for Black Lives, abolitionist, and other social movements de-center courts and instead emphasize the need to to build power to advance transformative social change. Can these approaches to social change be reconciled? Through conversation with Ashok Chandran \u2715 (NAACP LDF), Theodore Shaw \u2779 (UNC Center for Civil Rights), and Alexis J. Hoag-Fordjour (Brooklyn Law School), co-hosts Olatunde Johnson and Andres Estevez \u2723 delve into the history of civil rights lawyering, and examine how it is responding to current social movements.https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/through_the_gale/1002/thumbnail.jp