We propose a reformulation of the ideal $\mathcal{N}$ of Lebesgue measure zero sets of reals modulo an ideal $J$ on $\omega$, which we denote by $\mathcal{N}_J$. In the same way, we reformulate the ideal $\mathcal{E}$ generated by $F_\sigma$ measure zero sets of reals modulo $J$, which we denote by $\mathcal{N}^*_J$. We show that these are $\sigma$-ideals and that $\mathcal{N}_J=\mathcal{N}$ iff $J$ has the Baire property, which in turn is equivalent to $\mathcal{N}^*_J=\mathcal{E}$. Moreover, we prove that $\mathcal{N}_J$ does not contain co-meager sets and $\mathcal{N}^*_J$ contains non-meager sets when $J$ does not have the Baire property. We also prove a deep connection between these ideals modulo $J$ and the notion of nearly coherence ...