This interview was recorded as part of Myra Armstead’s 2017 course, Hist 117: Inclusion at Bard, which produced a series of oral histories with alumni/ae of color. Raised in Dayton, Ohio, Charles S. Johnson III has been dedicated to politics personally, academically, and professionally throughout his life. He came to Bard from a parochial school where his Marianist brothers and teachers encouraged “freedom of inquiry and freedom of expression.” Though he felt prepared intellectually for a Bard education, and was familiar with interracial settings, his adjustment to Annandale was largely cultural: “I remember the first time I met somebody whose parents were not together [at Bard], you know, who was the product of a divorce. That was a shock....