In ASDEX Upgrade and JET, the ion temperature profiles can be described by R/L-Ti which exhibits only little variations, both locally, when comparing different discharges, andradially over a wide range of the poloidal cross-section. Considering a change of the local ion heat flux of more than a factor of two, this behaviour indicates some degree of profile stiffness. In JET, covering a large ion temperature range from 1 to 25 keV, the normalized ion temperature gradient, R/L-Ti, shows a dependence on the electron to ion temperature ratio or toroidal rotational shear. In particular, in hot ion plasmas, produced predominantly by neutral beam heating at low densities, in which large T-i/T-e is coupled to strong toroidal rotation, the effect of...