In this joint interview Cleatus and Louise Burns discuss working conditions and mining methods in the Alabama coal mines, beginning in the 1930s (e.g. mining with mules). Cleatus Burns describes early labor movement efforts and recounts the eventual unionization of the mines. He also describes living in a company camp and some of the earliest union meetings. Mr. Burns also describes trying to organize the De Bardelben mines as well as union organizers being shot at by company guards. He explains that people who lived in the rural areas around the mines would often help union members by giving them food from their farms. According to Mr. and Mrs. Burns, Bankhead was the first mine to strike, due to low pay. Louise Burns describes growing up ...