Selected excerpts from the Oral History Project interview. The full transcript may be restricted. To request access please contact the Simon’s Rock College Archives. Pat trusted me, I guess. Pat has always been somebody who empowers people. She’s just wonderful that way. And she saw how carefully I read the applications, and asked me to-- when the Acceleration to Excellence Program started-- some of the existing students called it the “Twenty Nerds Program,”-- but it was when they brought in these full-[merit] scholarship kids. And in the beginning, [the students] had grants to do summer studies and at that point, I had never worked with a database at all. And Ginger Warness, who worked in admissions, spent hours with me on the third floo...