This conversation represents an oral history interview with a Holy Cross alum who graduated in 1975. He discusses his experience of Holy Cross during the 70\u27s and the lack of awareness the student body had for any type of gay identity. Additionally, he describes his experience coming out at age 45. In the interview, he reflects on how it would be or would not be different if he had been out on campus at this time and his recommendations on how Holy Cross can continue to support LGBTQ students. Interview keywords: adulthood, alum, Catholic Church, college, cycling, family, friendship, gay couple, marriage, the 1970s, Vietnam Wa