Let me start out by saying that, in a 10 - minute discussion it's difficult to do justice to everything that's in John's very interesting paper. I'm going to draw on what I take to be three themes. The first theme, that John did not say a huge amount about , is that clearly some of the DSGE models we've been working with have not been particularly successful. Secondly, John mentioned a couple of people that he's found very insightful. One is David Hendry and one is Joe Stiglitz and I echo that sentiment. I n my first job at the University of Toronto I went to see Joe Stiglitz give a talk. At the time, I didn't really have a clear thesis topic. My thesis ended up being inspired by that talk; so the notion that there are some very impor...