Rabbi Freundel writes about ethical norms in the Hebrew Bible that arose, either from God\u27s direct command or implicitly from His actions, and established a model for human conduct. Near the end of his essay, however, he shifts focus to discuss occasions in the Hebrew Bible when human beings challeng[e] God ... with ethical thinking.\u27 In this response, I want to focus on these extraordinary occasions. Two related possibilities seem to follow from these occasions, at least so far as the Hebrew Bible is concemed: First, the possibility that God is not the source of all moral norms; Second, that human beings can be independent authors of moral norms - or can have independent capacity to recognize moral norms-that bind God Himself