presentation about an alternative to cyclic cosmological models, which needs experimental tests for falsifiabity. As discussed by Beckwith, in EJTP [2], Penrose brought up how a De Albertain wave equation, as simplified in flat space could lead to a rising vacuum nucleation field which would engender the pop up behavior as sought in most emergent field models of gravity. The scalar field pop up with certain qualifications is not so startling in itself. Now for the radical extension Penrose brought to bear. Penrose asserted in his ICG lecture that there was a good chance that there was no collapse in future events, but that matter would be eventually sucked up by ‘millions ’ of black holes, creating a clean up of most interstellar matter. Th...