Over the past decade, the kinetic-data-structures framework has become the standard in computational geometry for dealing with moving objects. A fundamental assumption underlying the framework is that the motions of the ob-jects are known in advance. This assumption severely limits the applicability of KDSs. We study KDSs in the black-box model, which is a hybrid of the KDS model and the tradi-tional time-slicing approach. In this more practical model we receive the position of each object at regular time steps and we have an upper bound on dmax, the maximum dis-placement of any point in one time step. We study the maintenance of the convex hull and the De-launay triangulation of a planar point set P in the black-box model, under the follow...